LUTHER SEMINARY – ST. PAUL, MINNESOTA

IC2635 "Comparative Confessions" Syllabus – Spring 2007

NW 231 – Tues 10:40-12:30, Thurs 11:40-12:30

 

I.  PURPOSE:  An examination of doctrinal agreements and disagreements among Christian traditions through comparison of their confessional documents.  The course also examines the significance of these diverse theological understandings for pastoral practice and ecumenical cooperation.

      This course works best when we have a mix of denominations represented in the class, since we learn from the convictions and experiences of each other.  As we deal with differences among Christian denominations and groups we never lose sight of the fact that despite these differences we are at the very center brothers and sisters in Christ.

 

II.  INSTRUCTORS:  Michael Rogness, x420, mrogness@luthersem.edu, campus mail in NW

                                    Walter Sundberg, x270 wsundber@luthersem.edu, campus mail in GH

 

III.  TEXTBOOKS: 

            Creeds of the Churches, John Leith, ed. (rhymes with “faith”).  Most creeds are on www.creeds.net  
(or
www.iclnet.org, click on Creeds/Confessions)

            Book of Concord or your own denomination’s documents.  (The BC 1921 Triglot Concordia is in the public domain, www.bookofconcord.org.)

Notes about the Leith text -

The index is fairly clear until “The Confession of Dositheus 1672,” a statement of an Eastern Orthodox patriarch in response to the Reformation.  This is the only Orthodox creed in the book, and there the term “Catholic” means Orthodox, not Roman Catholic.

The documents of the Second Vatican Council (Vatican II, 1960s) are scattered throughout the book. “Church” is on p. 459f., “Missionary Activity of the Church” p. 658f., and “Divine Revelation” p. 724f.  Other documents from Vatican II are on the website.

“The Ecumenical Movement” section in the Table of Contents includes more recent documents.  Note particularly “Baptism, Eucharist and Ministry” (BEM 1982, p. 604f.), a document produced by the World Council of Churches to summarize similarities and differences among all major church bodies on these three key ecumenical issues.   

Helpful:

            Christian Confessions: A Historical Introduction by Ted Campbell (Westminster, 1996)

            Honoring Our Neighbor’s Faith (Augsburg parish resource - student book and teacher’s

                        guide, used in congregations)

            American Originals, Paul K. Conkin

            Creation Spirituality, Matthew Fox

            Unconditional Life, Deepak Chopra

            The Cosmic Self...Today's New Age Movement, Ted Peters

            Fire from Heaven, Harvey Cox (Pentecostalism as a world-wide movement)

            Mormon America, Ostling

            American Evangelicalism: Embattled and Thriving, Christian Smith (first chapter gives a

                        history of post-fundamentalist evangelicalism) 

            Material in the Comparative Confessions folder on reserve in our library

Older Standard Works:

            The Creeds of Christendom, 3 vols., Philip Schaff, editor 1877f.

            Doctrinal Theology of the Evangelical Lutheran Church, Heinrich Schmid, editor, 1875f.

Internet Resources:

ELCA ecumenical documents: www.elca.org/ecumenical

            - Formula of Agreement: http://www.elca.org/ecumenical/fullcommunion/reformed/index.html

            - Called to Common Mission: http://www.elca.org/ecumenical/fullcommunion/episcopal/index.html

            - Joint Declaration on the Doctrine of Justification:

                        www.elca.org/ecumenical/ecumenicaldialogue/romancatholic/jddj//indes.html

      Evangelicals & Catholics Together: The Christian Mission in the Third Millennium, 1994:

                        www.firstthings.com/collections/coll-ECT.html

      The Documents of Vatican II, Walter M. Abbott, S.J., editor, 1966

                           http://www.rc.net/rcchurch/vatican2/;  www.stjosef.at/council/)

      “Dominus Jesu,” papal statement of August 6, 2000 (14 on mediation, 17 on other churches)

                           http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/, click on “Doctrinal Documents, scroll down to “Declaration on the unity. . .Dominus Jesu,” August 6, 2000, or scroll down a bit further to “Sister Churches,” June 30, 2000, or others.

General websites:

      www.creeds.net.  They’re all there, and then some.

      www.thearda.com. The website of the Association of Religion Data Archive, with a vast amount of information on any church body.

      www.iclnet.org, follow links, particularly Creeds/Confessions.  The link to Project Wittenberg

            brings you to a lot of Lutheran information, including about half of the Book of Concord, although the whole Book of Concord is available at www.bookofconcord.org.

      www.google.com, type subject, press Enter, follow links

      http://encarta.msn.com/  msn Encarta has dictionary, encyclopedia, and more

      www.jeremiahproject.com, follow links

      www.religioustolerance.org, follow links

      www.carm.org, “Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page/.  Wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia with informative articles on religion, including Christian denominations and doctrines.

Websites of church bodies:

      www.abc-usa.org  (American Baptist Church)

      www.bgcworld.org  (Baptist General Conference)

      www.episcopalchurch.org  (Episcopal Church)

      www.covchurch.org  (Evangelical Covenant Church)

      www.elca.org  (ELCA)

      www.lcms.org  (Lutheran Church--Missouri Synod), click on “Beliefs and Practices, scroll down to The Lutheran Confessions or under LCMS Doctrine their 1932 Brief Statement

      www.oca.org  (Orthodox Church website)

      www.pcusa.org  (Presbyterian Church USA)

      www.vatican.va, www.vatican.va/roman_curia/index.htm  (Vatican website)

      www.newadvent.org  (Roman Catholic Encyclopedia)

      www.catholic.com  (Roman Catholic, but not an official site)

      www.sbc.net  (Southern Baptist Convention)

      www.umc.org  (United Methodist Church)

      www.ag.org  (Assemblies of God)

 

IV.  REQUIREMENTS

A.     Class attendance:  Let us know before class if you have to miss.  (Bring the Leith text to class, plus others as needed.)

 

IV.  REQUIREMENTS, continued

B. Ten papers, 3-4 pages, handed in on Tuesday:  Five issue papers, discussing the theological and/or historical issues of that week’s topic.  Five papers on the case study of that particular week.  Whether you do a case study or an issue paper is up to you, as long as you end up with 5 of each kind by the end of the course and as long as your paper connects with the theme for each particular week. We hope for a mix of issue papers and case study papers each week.

C.  Five church worship visits and reports.  Choose from:

                          Roman Catholic                                   Baptist

                          Eastern Orthodox                                Pentecostal

                          Presb/Cong/Ref/Meth                         Non-Denominational/Innovative

      After each visit, write a short 1-page report on what this service added to your understanding or impression of this tradition.  (It's helpful to attend a church before we discuss issues involving that particular denomination.)

Grades.  For a student who may ask for a grade, they will be given on the basis of class attendance and participation in discussion, faithful and timely completion of written work and church visits.  Written work will be evaluated on the basis of your engagement with confessional writings and/or other course reading, your alertness to pastoral and theological issues, your willingness to state your position clearly and, at the same time, treat respectfully those persons, viewpoints or traditions with which you may disagree.

 

Keep track of your work by checking off what you have done:

Issue Papers                             Case Studies                             Church Visits (Choose 5 of these)

1 _______________               1 _______________               Roman Catholic                           

2 _______________               2 _______________               Orthodox                                    

3 _______________               3 _______________               Pres/Cong/Ref/Meth                   

4 _______________               4 _______________               Baptist                                        

5 _______________               5 _______________               Pentecostal                                 

                                                                                                Non-Den/Innov                           

 

V.  SCHEDULE – Tuesdays 10:40-12:30,  Thursdays 10:40-12:30, NW 231

      The three hours will be divided up generally into lecture and discussion of issue papers, discussion of case studies and church visits, and (perhaps) guest speakers.  Usually the instructors will ask a student to launch the topic by reading his/her paper.

      The creeds listed for each week are in the Leith text.  Also use the confessions from your own tradition.  For some of the weeks, additional material and websites are also listed.  Students can also use textbooks, encyclopedias and other sources and websites as well.

      If you find other helpful websites, please list them on your papers, so we can include them in future years.

 

1) Tuesday/Thursday, Feb. 6/8 – Get organized; “Introduction to Creeds”

                                                        “What Unites--What Divides?”

 

2) Feb. 13/15 – Scripture and Tradition (particularly related to RC, Orthodox, Reformed)

      Trent; Berne 1528; Formula of Concord Preface; 39 Articles; 2nd Helvetic Confession; Dositheus; Westminster; Immaculate Conception; Vatican I; Vatican II "Revelation" (Leith p. 724)

  

3) Feb. 20/22 – Ministry & Episcopacy (Deals particularly with RC, Orthodox, Anglicans)

      Dositheus; Vatican I; Vatican II "Church" (Leith p. 459); Augsburg Confession & Apology Arts. 5, 7, 14, 15, 28; Smalcald Articles Part III Art. X; Presbyterian Confession of 1967 (Leith p. 697); Baptism Eucharist and Ministry (BEM, Leith p. 604).  (Check www.elca.org/ministry, click on Programs on the left, then “Theological Education for Emerging Ministries” for an ELCA alternate route to ordination.)

 

4) Feb. 27/March 1 – Sin & Salvation (RC, Orthodox, New Age)

      Augsburg Confession & Apology Arts. 2, Trent; Dositheus; Westminster Ch 11.  Also Chopra; Fox; Peters; Word & World, Summer 1992, 268-271).  For a review of Calvinism look at www.hccentral.com/delect.html.

 

5) March 6/8 – Saints, Icons and the Virgin Mary (RC, Orthodox)

      Constantinople A.D. 754; Nicaea A.D. 787; Augsburg Conf. & Apology Art. 21; Smalcald Articles Part II Art. II; Creed of Trent A.D. 1564; Dositheus A.D. 1672; Immaculate Conception A.D. 1854; Assumption A.D. 1950.  Also Vatican II Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, Chapter 8 on the Virgin Mary, mentioned but not printed in Leith, p. 484.   Also www.catholic.org/saints. www.immaculateheart.com/MaryOnLine/html/cover_story_0.html. 

      For appearances of Mary: www.members.aol.com/bjw1106/marian5.htm. Also www.medjugorje.org/index.html. 

      For the pope’s 2002 apostolic letter on the rosary, type “Rosarium Virginis Mariae” in the search box. 

For a recent statement of Pope John Paul II see the April 17, 2003, papal encyclical, Chapter 6: www.praiseofglory.com/popeeucharist.htm . 

Also about Pope John Paul II: http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/newsletter/2003/oct24.html. 

For a bit of Mariology that slipped into the LBW check hymn 175 vs. 2.

 

6) March 13/15 – Baptism (Baptist, Pentecostals)

      Augsburg Confession & Apology Art 9; Smalcald Articles Part III Art. V; 2nd Helvetic Ch 20; Schleitheim; BEM. 

      For ELCA “The Use of the Means of Grace”: www.elca.org/dcm/worship/worship/sacraments/umg.html.  Also history texts.

 

March 20/22 – Tuesday is a Reading Day, so take Thursday off as well.  Enjoy!

 

7) March 27/29 – Lord’s Supper

4th Lateran Council; Augsburg Confession & Apology Arts. 10, 13; Smalcald Articles Part III, Art. VI;
Formula of Concord 7; 2nd Helvetic Confession XXI; BEM.

For ELCA “The Use of the Means of Grace”: www.elca.org/dcm/worship/worship/sacraments/umg.html.

For Roman Catholic policy, see the April 17, 2003, papal encyclical, particularly paragraphs 30,38,43-46: www.praiseofglory.com/popeeucharist.htm. 

Also history texts.

 

8) April 3/April 12 (Easter break in between) - Law and Two Kingdoms

      Some topics: church/state relationship historically or present-day; Luther’s concept of “two regiments/kingdoms”; intent of, extent of, and today’s issues about the First Amendment of the US Constitution; appropriate role of church and/or religious convictions in civil government/law.       

      Some sources: 2nd Helvetic Confession XX; Westminster Confession XXX; Helvetic Consensus XXVI; Presbyterian Confession of 19i67; Barmen Declaration.  Also Luther’s "Address to the German Nobility" 1520 and "Temporal Authority: To What Extent It Should  Be Obeyed" 1523 [both on desk reserve], plus other texts, ethics books, etc.  Jim Nestingen’s article at www.luthersem.edu/word&world/archives/19-3_politics/19-3_nestingen.pdf.

  

9) April 17/19 – Fundamentalism

      Westminster Ch 19.  Also Conkin text; history books (George Marsden has written several books about fundamentalism); reference works.

      Piles of websites: www.ifca.org (a fundamentalist website, follow links);
www.bible-truth.org/fundbapt.htm; (pro);

www.frii.com/~gosplow/disp2.html (anti); 

(Missouri Synod statement: www.lcms.org, click on “Beliefs and Practices,” scroll down to LCMS Doctrine, the Brief Statement Article 1 “Of the Holy Scriptures”

      Also http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/006/7.52.html  (about Carl McIntire).

www.womenpriests.org, a Roman Catholic website urging the ordination of women. 

ELCA material at www.elca.org/cw/women.clergy.html.

 

10) April 24/26 – Pentecostalism & Charismatic Movement

      The Leith text isn’t helpful, since these groups do not have creeds as such.  Check the Conkin text; Cox’s Fire from Heaven;  history books; reference works, etc.

      Websites are the most helpful:  www.born-again-christian.info; http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/penta.html; www.foca.org; www.ag.org; www.lutheranrenewal.org/aboutus.html

 

11) May 1/3– Evangelicalism

      Conkin text; Christian Smith book, chapter 1; history books; reference works, etc. 

      Lots of websites, including: www.sunnetworks.net/~ggarman/fundy.html; www.billygraham.com; www.nhc.rtp.nc.us:8080/tserve/twenty/tkeyinfo/fundam.htm.

 

12) May 8/10 – New Age

      Chopra; Fox; Ted Peters’ article in Word & World, Summer 1992, 268-271; reference works; current literature; www.probe.org/docs/newage.html; www.newageinfo.com; www.beliefnet.org, on left column under Find, Search Beliefnet, type New Age, click on Go; www.blavatsky.net; www.spotlightministries.org.uk  (from Britain); www.holistic.com.

 

13) May 15 – Mormonism

      Conkin text; Richard & Joan Ostling, Mormon America, 1999; Encyclopedia of Mormonism in our library’s reference room (BX8605.5 E62);

      other reference works; www.lds.org (their website, designed to give the impression that Mormonism is simply another Christian denomination);
www.mormon.org;  www.religioustolerance.org/lds.htm; www.carm.org/lds/lds_doctrines.htm; www.mrm.org/articles;
Mormon doctrines opposing orthodox Christianity:  
www.truthinlovetomormons.com; www.exmormons.org; www.integrity.com/homes/exmormon/nice.htm; http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/nbbi/morm3trc.html. 

      (The Mormons will help you search for your ancestors: www.familysearch.org/eng/home/welcome/welcome.asp)

 

 

VI.  CASE STUDIES:  How would you respond in the following situations?  Support your opinion from the Scriptures, confessions and theological reasons.

 

Scripture and Tradition.  The contemporary worship service in your congregation has evolved into something altogether different from the other two services—no vestments, no organ, no songs older than about 20 years, laypeople leading almost the whole worship, no hymnbooks, Power Point instead of bulletins, lots of clapping, etc. Members accustomed to worship traditions—vestments, choir robes, organ, hymnbook hymns and liturgies, no clapping, etc.—are concerned that, as they say, “We have two entirely different congregations here.”  Some are concerned, as one member said, “My grandson will grow up never knowing the great hymns of the church which have sustained me though tough times.”  An adult forum has been scheduled to talk about this.  What will you say about the role and place of tradition?

Scripture and Tradition:  A fellow seminary student and good friend of yours is considering dropping

out and becoming a Roman Catholic.  “In this day and age,” he says, “the Christian church needs to speak with a unified voice.  Protestants all claim to follow the Bible, but there is a huge variety of opinions among them about how to interpret the Bible, with no consensus at all.  Even among us Lutheran students [or read your own denomination] we don’t seem to agree on anything.  I’m joining the Catholics and am willing to overlook those Catholic doctrines I don’t much agree with, because it’s important that somebody is in charge of saying what the church believes, so that we present a unified front to the world.”  How will you respond?

 

Ministry, Episcopacy.  In adopting “Called to Common Mission” (CCM) with the Episcopal Church the ELCA adopted the “historic episcopacy.”  The Roman Catholics, Orthodox and Anglicans/Episcopalians are clear about their definition of the term, its theology and its practice, i.e., that ordination is valid only by a bishop in “historic succession” with past bishops.  The ELCA accepted the Episcopal practice that only bishops could ordain, but the ELCA also approved a provision that “in unusual circumstances” exceptions could be made and pastors be authorized to ordain.  What are the implications of the ELCA’s position, and how might it affect future theology and practice?  (Or if you are in another denomination, how do you define a “valid” ordination and ministry?)

 

Ministry, Episcopacy.  Consider some of the alternate forms of ministry and ordination which are growing in today’s churches: What are the pros and cons of these alternatives?

            1. You have a friend who is involved in one of the Vineyard churches.  Your friend wants to start a congregation like this.  He does not plan to go to seminary, but plans to start an in-home Bible study and try to “grow” a church, while supporting himself with a secular job.  Your friend asks you, “Why do you need a seminary education to enter the ministry?  You could learn by becoming an apprentice to another pastor, and then starting your own congregation from scratch.  If it is God’s will for you to be a pastor, the Holy Spirit will grow your congregation.  Seminary and ordination are outmoded forms that get in the way of ministry.”

            2. Some of your members, along with their friends from other churches, have left the congregation and started a “house church,” arguing that this kind of close, mutually supporting community meeting in homes is more like the New Testament Christian groups.  They take turns presiding over Holy Communion.

            3. In many Baptist churches ordination is near the beginning of the process rather than at the end, i.e., call, preaching, ordination, then possible seminary education.

            4. Hosanna Lutheran Church in Lakeville, Minnesota, recently “commissioned” three members for pastoral work, including administering the sacraments.  They are called “pastors” within the congregation. As fulltime church employees they are part of the ELCA pension/medical insurance program, although listed as “lay employees” by the ELCA.

 

Sin & Salvation.  You will officiate at funerals in many situations which involve issues between church denominations.  Pick one and say how you as a Lutheran would respond, knowing that people from many churches in the community will also be there.  The deceased person is:

            1. Tom, a high school teen-ager in your church, committed suicide.  Catholics and conservative Protestants in the community are surprised that you held the funeral in the church, because they believe that a person who takes his own life commits a terrible sin and dies without repentance or absolution for that sin.  Your high school group asks what you think.  Explain why some people believe suicides should not be buried from the church and what you believe.

            2. Lucille, a woman in her 50s, was raised in a Christian family but 15 years ago joined the ECKANKAR cult, which believes that at death the soul is released from the limitations of physical life to travel in a higher realm.  Earlier this week she died of cancer, and her family, Lutherans and Methodists, asked you to conduct a brief memorial service.  What text would you use, and what would you say?

 

Sin & Salvation  (Confession & Absolution).

            1. Carol, a young person from your parish, moved to a Twin Cities suburb where she and her husband Bill visited a nearby ELCA congregation.  She called you on the phone and said, “They use the LBW with a lot of contemporary music, but they never use the Brief Order for Confession and Forgiveness at the beginning of the service.  I asked the pastor about it, and he said, ‘It’s optional, and we don’t use it because we want to reach out to the unchurched.  To start a service by confessing our sins is a kind of downer.  We don’t want to perpetuate the sense of guilt and shame felt by so many Christians, but we think people are more uplifted by hearing how good they are and can be.’“  She remembers how in your congregation every service began with the Brief Order, and she says, “I liked it, because we confessed our sin and heard the words of absolution.  It set everything right at the beginning of worship.”  Then she adds to you, “Can they really omit that in this church?”  What will you say?

            2. A parishioner who is active on the Social Concerns Committee of your congregation has recently visited a United Church of Christ church and shows you a copy of the bulletin.  Instead of a confession of sins, the service at this church began with a responsive reading which focused on social ills (racism, sexism, poverty, physical and emotional abuse, economic exploitation, etc.).  Your parishioner further reports that instead of a sermon that day, the UCC congregation heard stories of victims of various kinds of abuse.  An offering was taken for a local shelter for battered women.  In a committee meeting this parishioner suggests that you replace (either permanently or occasionally) the confession of sins with a litany on social ills, and talk more about “real issues,” that is, social issues, rather than biblical texts.  How will you answer?

 

Saints, Icons and the Virgin Mary.  Lara Ivanova was born in Russia.  She was in her late 50s when her family moved to your town. Since there was no Russian Orthodox church anywhere close, she and her family worshipped at your church, where they eventually became members.  Lara had a collection of Russian Orthodox icons, which were beautiful and quite valuable.  A few years ago they were displayed in the narthex of the church, and people were so struck by their beauty and mystery that Lara left them to the church in her will.  The will left no directions as to how the icons should be used or where they should be placed.  Lara’s grown children have expressed their strong desire that the icons be placed in the chancel of the church to be used in worship.  Any significant changes in the sanctuary must be approved by the Worship committee.  What will you recommend to them concerning Lara’s bequest, where the icons should be placed and how they can be used?

 

Saints, Icons and the Virgin Mary.  Betty Larsen and Francis Xavier O’Neal will be married in your church.  Several members of Frank’s Roman Catholic family are disturbed that the wedding is in a Lutheran church and that he will probably become Lutheran.  Betty is wondering if it would be OK to have the soloist sing “Ave Maria” in the wedding service to make his family and friends feel more at home.  You know that the song is a prayer to Mary, which is not done in your church.  What will you decide and why?

 

Baptism.  One of your high school students, baptized as an infant but never very active in the church, is now involved in a Baptist/Pentecostal prayer group.  His faith has been reawakened or renewed, and his friends in the group are pressuring him to be baptized, because, as the friends say, "obviously your baptism as a baby didn't count for anything because you didn’t have a saving faith in Jesus before you became active here," a statement the Lutheran boy tends to agree with.  What will you say?

 

Baptism.  The “grandma baptism” scenario, which you will all face:  A member asks you to baptize her grandson.  The baby’s mother grew up in your church, but she became inactive after confirmation.  Her husband has never been a member of a church, and as far as you know, is a non-believer.  They have moved to another town and have not joined any church there.  Now they are coming home for vacation with their 1-year old boy, and Grandma wants her grandson baptized.  The parents are willing.  What will you do?

 

Baptism  (a letter from an intern)

Dear Professor - - - -,

      A social worker in our church works with inner-city youth, many of whom are in and out of legal trouble.  He asked me recently, “Can anyone baptize?”  I said something like, “Yes, when it is an emergency and the correct words are used.”  He has befriended a 10-year old boy whom he has been bringing to church.  Now the boy wants to be baptized.  His friend, our member, says he wants me (i.e., an unordained intern) to baptize him. “You’re the only one here in church he knows,” he said to me.  “He’s been suspicious of ‘church’ all his life, but now he trusts you and says you’re the only one he wants for baptism. . .I’d say it’s a kind of emergency.”  What would you do if you were that intern?

 

Lord’s Supper.  ELCA bishops are currently discussing under what circumstances a layperson and/or seminary intern can administer Holy Communion in the absence of an ordained pastor.  The policy is that laypersons can be authorized by a bishop to administer the sacraments in one place, sometimes only during specified times, provided that the person receive necessary training to do so.  One intern was authorized to administer Holy Communion once a month, but not Baptism.  On what biblical, theological and confessional basis is this based?  (If you’re in another church body, adapt this to your situation.)

 

Lord’s Supper.  The ELCA’s “Occasional Services,” pp.76-82, gives instructions for laypersons distributing Holy Communion as “an extension of the Lord’s Supper to those…who are unable to be present at the celebration of the congregation.”  The bread and wine from the service in the congregation may be taken by laypersons to the home bound “within a few hours of the congregation’s service that day.” (p. 79)  The words of institution are included in what the lay visitor says, but with these instructions (p. 80):

—“The containers of bread and wine are to remain closed in order that the communicant(s) not understand the biblical words of institution to be a consecration of the elements.”  [This is to make clear that the bread and wine have been consecrated by an ordained pastor.]

—“The assisting minister of communion does not touch or lift the bread or wine during the address.” [An ordained pastor has already done that with this bread and wine.]

Is the ELCA endorsing the “reservation” of the bread and wine?  (See also “The Use of the Means of Grace,” 48A.)  What’s the theology behind this practice? 

 

Lord’s Supper.  While traveling, you attend a large, traditional Roman Catholic Church.  No one there would know or recognize that you are not Catholic.  You know that Roman Catholic policy is that the Lord’s Supper is only for Roman Catholics, but you would very much like to receive Communion.  Will you go forward or not, and on what basis will you decide? 

 

Law & Two Kingdoms.  You decided that as a pastor you should be involved in community affairs and were elected to the school board.  Two people are running for the chairmanship, both retired after fine teaching careers.  One is very active in her congregation, believes that schools should uphold “traditional moral and family values,” has been critical of the “liberalism” of some of the teachers and wants “creationism” rather than “Darwinism” (her term) taught in biology classes.  The other candidate is a fine person, widely respected, but not a church member.  You will cast the deciding vote.  What factors will determine your decision?

 

Law & Two Kingdoms.  After much discussion on church-state relations, your youth group has submitted a petition to the Church Council to remove the flags from the church sanctuary.  How will you respond?

 

Law & Two Kingdoms.  Pick a current political issue and make a case for how one’s Christian faith would inform one’s position.  Or argue that Christians can be equally on one side or the other.

 

Fundamentalism.  Two members of your congregation want to donate the entire set of Left Behind novels to the church library.  They want to start a discussion group to focus on these books, which use a fictional plot to dramatize the rapture and other apocalyptic events.  You can tell by the way they talk to you that they believe in the end-times scenarios presented by these books, and want to persuade others.  How will you respond?

 

Fundamentalism.  [From a recent graduate of Luther Seminary, who has enrolled in a graduate program where he is the only Lutheran in the group]  One of the other students said to him, “Now brother, we know what the Bible says about ordaining women, and we know why we don’t ordain them.  Why does your church do it?”  If you were in his place, what would you say?

 

Pentecostalism.  You are serving a church that has a vacancy to fill for the position of associate pastor.  A call committee has been formed.  As a pastor (or staff member) you are an “ex officio” member to whom the committee can look for advice.  Though you respect the independence of the call committee, you will be working closely with the person they choose, so your opinion counts.  (There are several viable candidates, so it is not a matter of having no choices.)  The committee does its work and interviews several candidates.  Write on one of these two possible scenarios:

a)  The person they are most interested in has a strong commitment to the “Alpha” program and has expressed a strong desire to get Alpha going in your congregation.  You have heard that Alpha gets people involved in speaking in tongues, but you are not sure.  The committee asks for your opinion, not only on ALPHA in general, but on how you would feel about working closely with someone who is deeply involved in this movement.  (See http://www.alphausa.org/)

b)  The person they are most interested in has a strong commitment to the Order of St. Luke the Physician, which emphasizes healing.  If called to this church, this candidate intends to bring the St. Luke focus on healing into his or her ministry.  The committee asks you how you would feel about working closely with this candidate, given the interest in healing.  (See http://www.orderofstluke.org/)

 

Evangelicalism.  During a pre-confirmation interview Jennie tells you that she has been born again.  Her mother came from a Pentecostal background before marrying her Lutheran father.  You have the following conversation:

            "When were you born again?"  "About three years ago."

            “Why is that?  What happened then?”  “I asked Jesus into my heart."

            "Wasn't he there before?"  "I don't know.  I was baptized, but I didn't feel anything, and I hadn't decided anything on my own yet. But my mother said that when I was ready and wanted Jesus as my Lord, I should ask him to come into my heart, and he would.  So I did, and that’s when I was born again."

How will you continue the interview?

 

Evangelicalism.  The Billy Graham Association is holding a revival in a large city near the congregation you serve. Respond to one of the scenarios below:

a) Several people from your congregation attend.  At one of the services, two members of your congregation go forward, responding to the invitation to commit (or recommit) their lives to Christ.  You receive post cards from the Billy Graham Association, urging you to follow up on these people.  One of them has been a very active member in your church.  How will you respond?

b) You are a volunteer counselor.  This means that you go forward to pray with people who answer the invitation at the close of each sermon.  As a volunteer you meet other counselors from backgrounds including Baptist, Assembly of God, Lutheran, Catholic and even "Jews for Jesus."  You are impressed with the vigor of American evangelicalism and practical ecumenism.  However some of your colleagues (who were not part of the event) criticize you for supporting "decision theology."  How will you respond?

 

New Age.  With a few members of your congregation you go to an ecumenical conference which features issues of multi-culturalism and world religions.  The purpose of the conference is to celebrate diversity of faith and elements various religions hold in common.  The worship services use hymns and prayers to various deities, goddesses and powers from ancient religions and also from new, experimental ones.  The book display offers a wide selection: Christian devotional works, generic self-help books, New Age, and some classic

literature of many faiths—Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Native American religions, African traditional

religions, and more.  One member of your congregation says her faith is stimulated by all these new ideas and

finds inspiration in "new" forms of prayer and meditation.  Another member of your congregation wonders, "How far can we go before we are no longer Christian?"  What will you say?

 

New Age.  The son of a member of your congregation has contracted a chronic and potentially disabling disease.  As part of his course of treatment Kevin has begun working with a holistic health practitioner.  He meditates regularly, follows a strict macrobiotic healing diet, does guided imaging and has acquired a crystal to help focus healing energies.  When you talk to them his mother said that she thinks he has fallen away from the Christian faith and needs to repent of this sin.  Kevin responded, "Mom, my problem is sickness, not sin. There's nothing ungodly about taking responsibility for my health and drawing on my own spiritual powers for wholeness."  What will you answer?

 

New Age.  Good members of your congregation ask you to bury their daughter, who grew up in your church and now has died at age 42 of cancer, leaving a husband and 2 children.  She and her family lived in another town and did not belong to a church.  You will officiate at the funeral, and the family asks if you would read a poem which was meaningful to her, which she copied and gave to her children to keep in her memory:   

Do not stand at my grave and weep.  I am not there.  I do not sleep.

I am the thousand winds that blow.  I am the diamond’s glints upon the snow.

I am the sunlight on the ripened grain. I am the gentle autumn rain.

When you awaken in the morning’s hush, I am the swift uplifting rush

Of birds in circling flight.  I am the soft star that shines at night.

Do not stand at my grave and cry.  I am not there.  I did not die.

(Often printed on the Minneapolis Star Tribune obituary page.   Also sung by one of our Lutheran church college choirs on Feb. 4, 2005)

What will you do?

 

Mormonism.  Your confirmation class visits other Christian churches – Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist and Pentecostal – and after the service a clergy person usually stays to answer questions.  Some of your youth want to visit the local Mormon assembly, but others in the youth group say, “No, Mormons aren’t Christian.” How will you respond?  

 

Mormonism.  A couple, married for about five years, comes to you for counsel.  The husband is Lutheran, the wife a lapsed Mormon, and in pre-marriage counseling (which they also did with you) they had agreed that they would both be Lutherans and worship together as Lutherans.  Although the woman has worshipped in your Lutheran congregation for several years, she finds herself increasingly drawn back to Mormonism.  She was never baptized in the Lutheran church, and over the years, her family has pressured her to return to Mormonism.  Especially difficult for her is the fact that her husband, unlike Mormon men, has not been consecrated as a priest and therefore cannot be the spiritual head of the household.  She says that this impairs her relationship with God.  Despite his wife's entreaties, the husband is unwilling to become a Mormon, and he fears that their marriage is about to dissolve.  What will be your strategy in counseling with this couple?